I think it’s really easy for PNMs to get caught up in tiers and rumors and stereotypes. The older I get, the more I realize how irrelevant they are. Our Greek leaders represent ALL organizations. I also think that if schools take values-based recruitment more seriously we will help to break barriers and educate young women about what Greek life is truly about.
Fantastic article. This makes me think of when I went through recruitment, I immediately dropped the “bottom” sorority if you will on the first night. I absolutely love my chapter and organization, I have served on standards and exec. With that said, I didn’t choose it for the right reasons. I just got lucky. Now I realize that while I have extremely close friends in my own chapter, I have equally close friends in that one I dropped the first night. I truly believe in Panhellenic sisterhood and I think that while I would’ve been happy in any org on our campus, but that one I dropped the first night was definitely a group of woman I did not appreciate the way I should have and for no real reason at all.
Ok so here are my concerns regarding this. 1. What does this information actually mean? If your application states that you have been convicted of assault, does that mean that you 100% won’t be accepted? Or does it mean that there will now be a new standard which will compensate for the crimes committed?
If having this label completely removes possibility of acceptance, it also occurs to me that it removed the possibility of further education and the opportunity for an offender to better him/herself. If having this label sets a standard to compensate for the crime, are we saying that assault is ok as long as you have ___ GPA or ___ extracurricular involvement?
Finally to add to this, if you’re a registered sex offender I believe that is public information that college admissions boards have access to. The way I see this is I understand the reasoning behind it, but I don’t see how it would actually play out effectively. I think more thought needs to be put into it.
Idk when I saw images of comments about “abandoning daya” circulating on social media I thought it was hilarious. One person started it and then everyone else wanted to get in on the joke. Satire, sarcasm… Isn’t that what y’all preach about here?
You keep getting defensive and I don’t understand because I’m not really disagreeing with you… I rarely disagree with you actually. Just adding in another point of view that is slightly different but mostly similar. I like many points you’ve made.
I didn’t say that you said to change for a man. I’m just saying that people who are trying to do things more for themselves than for a man are trying to fight that general attitude.
Yeahokaywhat, I understand what you’re saying, I don’t think I worded my comment correctly. I’m saying either way should be a personal preference. I personally shave, because yeah, I feel gross if I don’t. What I was trying to say is that if a woman chose not to shave, I don’t think it’s right that general society would find her disgusting and ridicule her for a personal choice, therefor making her feel insecure and disgusting herself. That feeling would be based on peer pressures and not personal preference. I hope that better clarifies my point.
I can see the argument but I don’t think women doing things for themselves makes them the “worst kind of person.” The reality is, women who are “rebelling” by not shaving their armpits or whatever aren’t the norm. And while I personally wouldn’t do it, I don’t really pass judgement over those who choose to either.
I think the problem that women with this kind of attitude are trying to overcome is that many women (I’ve been there… I think we all have) have at some point been extremely insecure and completely changed themselves to please a man. To develop the confidence to say “I like hair short, screw it. Take it or leave it.” is new to many and honestly, it feels pretty damn good.
And it is possible to do things for yourself while understanding what might impress a man. Most of it is just picking and choosing what you might do anyway whether a man was in the picture or not. At least, that’s how I see it. I’m definitely a “take it or leave it” kind of girl. But I also have a boyfriend. So I guess I’m not the worst.
The woman he married probably has no idea this is happening. She should 100% contact the wife.
I think it’s really easy for PNMs to get caught up in tiers and rumors and stereotypes. The older I get, the more I realize how irrelevant they are. Our Greek leaders represent ALL organizations. I also think that if schools take values-based recruitment more seriously we will help to break barriers and educate young women about what Greek life is truly about.
Fantastic article. This makes me think of when I went through recruitment, I immediately dropped the “bottom” sorority if you will on the first night. I absolutely love my chapter and organization, I have served on standards and exec. With that said, I didn’t choose it for the right reasons. I just got lucky. Now I realize that while I have extremely close friends in my own chapter, I have equally close friends in that one I dropped the first night. I truly believe in Panhellenic sisterhood and I think that while I would’ve been happy in any org on our campus, but that one I dropped the first night was definitely a group of woman I did not appreciate the way I should have and for no real reason at all.
The magnum thing cracks me up. No excuses whatsoever. I like the way you think.
Supply & demand.
Thanks for clearing that up for me!
Ok so here are my concerns regarding this. 1. What does this information actually mean? If your application states that you have been convicted of assault, does that mean that you 100% won’t be accepted? Or does it mean that there will now be a new standard which will compensate for the crimes committed?
If having this label completely removes possibility of acceptance, it also occurs to me that it removed the possibility of further education and the opportunity for an offender to better him/herself. If having this label sets a standard to compensate for the crime, are we saying that assault is ok as long as you have ___ GPA or ___ extracurricular involvement?
Finally to add to this, if you’re a registered sex offender I believe that is public information that college admissions boards have access to. The way I see this is I understand the reasoning behind it, but I don’t see how it would actually play out effectively. I think more thought needs to be put into it.
Idk when I saw images of comments about “abandoning daya” circulating on social media I thought it was hilarious. One person started it and then everyone else wanted to get in on the joke. Satire, sarcasm… Isn’t that what y’all preach about here?
Taking “objectifying women” to a whole new level.
Seems like a lot of effort just to get revenge on someone.
Sexual awakening is an understatement. If I met her, I’d probably cry.
I love stories like this!
You keep getting defensive and I don’t understand because I’m not really disagreeing with you… I rarely disagree with you actually. Just adding in another point of view that is slightly different but mostly similar. I like many points you’ve made.
I didn’t say that you said to change for a man. I’m just saying that people who are trying to do things more for themselves than for a man are trying to fight that general attitude.
But according to her mom, she sounds “amazing.”
Lol.
Yeahokaywhat, I understand what you’re saying, I don’t think I worded my comment correctly. I’m saying either way should be a personal preference. I personally shave, because yeah, I feel gross if I don’t. What I was trying to say is that if a woman chose not to shave, I don’t think it’s right that general society would find her disgusting and ridicule her for a personal choice, therefor making her feel insecure and disgusting herself. That feeling would be based on peer pressures and not personal preference. I hope that better clarifies my point.
I can see the argument but I don’t think women doing things for themselves makes them the “worst kind of person.” The reality is, women who are “rebelling” by not shaving their armpits or whatever aren’t the norm. And while I personally wouldn’t do it, I don’t really pass judgement over those who choose to either.
I think the problem that women with this kind of attitude are trying to overcome is that many women (I’ve been there… I think we all have) have at some point been extremely insecure and completely changed themselves to please a man. To develop the confidence to say “I like hair short, screw it. Take it or leave it.” is new to many and honestly, it feels pretty damn good.
And it is possible to do things for yourself while understanding what might impress a man. Most of it is just picking and choosing what you might do anyway whether a man was in the picture or not. At least, that’s how I see it. I’m definitely a “take it or leave it” kind of girl. But I also have a boyfriend. So I guess I’m not the worst.
Teach me how to turn myself into Kendall Jenner
Agreed. If a woman chooses to shave it should be because it’s a personal preference for herself, not because she would feel disgusting if she didn’t.
I don’t think she cares. She does it because she enjoys it.