omg fuck yes!!!!! let’s talk about things like rape and violence in a classroom of possible sexual assault survivors and veterans w PTSD with absolutely no warning and have them discuss it for the sake of academia, like you didn’t just throw their most traumatic experience in their face!!! go uchicago!!!
no one said that blacks were the only ones who have been discriminated against lol i genuinely think you should look into intersectionality of race class and gender to truly understand privilege.
The movement he’s started is bigger than him alone. Trying to take him down will not diminish the fact so many students across the nation agree with what he’s about.
Okay you def have a point here. Though I know the struggle of people of color very well, I can recognize the privilege I have in being able to witness this unfold on a distance and not on my own college campus. We pay so much for college tuitionin the U.S. and it’s shitty as hell that your campus is basically falling apart and you aren’t getting the education you deserve, i’m sorry. That being said, this is still an issue across the nation on many campuses, not just yours. Though your town has unfortunately been through a lot of undue tension and stress, racism needs to be addressed and dealt with. It is an ugly thing, and because of that, combatting the prejudice is an extremely ugly process as well. I honestly hope that when this is resolved, your campus will thrive with renewed prosperity.
It’s people who ask for sources who aren’t really attempting to be open-minded and are instead just trying to catch the people who have an opposing point in a lie or waste time in an effort to win an argument.
Also sure, are the personal lives of my friends a good enough source for you? Or is listening to the people who have experience persecution first hand not accurate enough for you?
There is a precedent in existence where racial persecution and hateful speech has gone punished, so it’s not impossible– and if you’re a kind and goodhearted person, which I believe you probably are considering that’s sorority core values 101, then we should be taking a look into what we can do to help fellow students of color to make this situation an efficient and ephemeral one.
I will take full responsibility here because I meant to communicate that hate speech/racist speech/prejudiced speech are not rights guaranteed to anyone within an institution of higher education, as resulted in the court case in 1942 of Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, where Walter Chaplinsky convicted under a New Hampshire law against offensive and derisive speech and name-calling in public. This happened because “fighting” words (as the case here) neither contributed to the expression of ideas nor possessed any “social value” in searching for truth.
But I’ll definitely take your suggestion on a remedial civics class, thx <3
What I’d find more pressing if I came to Mizzou is not the complaints of the people who are exhausted of the media battle and protests, but instead the people of color who have BEEN exhausted of the lack of support your institution (to which they do pay tuition) has given them and are rising up to say enough.
also in regards to this: “Why does he get to prioritize intolerance? Why are his problems more important than mine, or yours, or any other of the 35,441 students currently enrolled in this university?”
Just a friendly reminder that while its shitty to be considered a bimbo (and a terrorist apparently, in my case), I’m not going to racially stereotyped, shot, and killed by the police and extremists in an overwhelming and systematic way like those who are speaking up in Mizzou might.
friendly reminder that though you have freedom of speech, you do not have the right to hateful speech and racist speech, and just because you’ve been called out on the fact that something you said was shitty does not mean your constitutional rights have been invalidated.
You are probably a great individual, but I do believe that your inability to see past your privilege has led you to write this completely tone-deaf article.
Butler is not in ANY way infringing on your constitutional right to freedom of speech because hate speech/racist speech/prejudiced speech are not protected by the constitution or the first amendment. The top comment here even says that “The Constitution defends a person’s right to free speech, but once your speech infringes on the constitutional rights of another person, your actions are wrong.” Isn’t it a constitutional right for all students to be treated equally and without persecution in their learning environment.
I agree your campus has gone through a lot, but there’s a simple way to end this problem. LISTEN to those who are trying so hard to be HEARD.
It’s hypocritical for you to say, “Let’s start by listening to each other. Let’s put aside our anger and come together to make a change we can be proud of. Let’s make respectable moves in the reshaping of our school. Let’s include students of all backgrounds when making decisions. Let’s ALL have a voice.” when
1) you know you already have a voice and have done nothing to use it in a positive way
2) you aren’t even listening to the very real persecution your fellow classmates (and other students of color across the nation) are feeling, and instead disregarding their struggle
and 3) you wrote this entire article because you’re lowkey butthurt because this movement does not cater to your needs as well.
omg fuck yes!!!!! let’s talk about things like rape and violence in a classroom of possible sexual assault survivors and veterans w PTSD with absolutely no warning and have them discuss it for the sake of academia, like you didn’t just throw their most traumatic experience in their face!!! go uchicago!!!
#preach
no one said that blacks were the only ones who have been discriminated against lol i genuinely think you should look into intersectionality of race class and gender to truly understand privilege.
The movement he’s started is bigger than him alone. Trying to take him down will not diminish the fact so many students across the nation agree with what he’s about.
Okay you def have a point here. Though I know the struggle of people of color very well, I can recognize the privilege I have in being able to witness this unfold on a distance and not on my own college campus. We pay so much for college tuitionin the U.S. and it’s shitty as hell that your campus is basically falling apart and you aren’t getting the education you deserve, i’m sorry. That being said, this is still an issue across the nation on many campuses, not just yours. Though your town has unfortunately been through a lot of undue tension and stress, racism needs to be addressed and dealt with. It is an ugly thing, and because of that, combatting the prejudice is an extremely ugly process as well. I honestly hope that when this is resolved, your campus will thrive with renewed prosperity.
It’s people who ask for sources who aren’t really attempting to be open-minded and are instead just trying to catch the people who have an opposing point in a lie or waste time in an effort to win an argument.
Also sure, are the personal lives of my friends a good enough source for you? Or is listening to the people who have experience persecution first hand not accurate enough for you?
There is a precedent in existence where racial persecution and hateful speech has gone punished, so it’s not impossible– and if you’re a kind and goodhearted person, which I believe you probably are considering that’s sorority core values 101, then we should be taking a look into what we can do to help fellow students of color to make this situation an efficient and ephemeral one.
Lmao it does happen a lot though so no need to completely dismiss it.
I will take full responsibility here because I meant to communicate that hate speech/racist speech/prejudiced speech are not rights guaranteed to anyone within an institution of higher education, as resulted in the court case in 1942 of Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, where Walter Chaplinsky convicted under a New Hampshire law against offensive and derisive speech and name-calling in public. This happened because “fighting” words (as the case here) neither contributed to the expression of ideas nor possessed any “social value” in searching for truth.
But I’ll definitely take your suggestion on a remedial civics class, thx <3
What I’d find more pressing if I came to Mizzou is not the complaints of the people who are exhausted of the media battle and protests, but instead the people of color who have BEEN exhausted of the lack of support your institution (to which they do pay tuition) has given them and are rising up to say enough.
also in regards to this: “Why does he get to prioritize intolerance? Why are his problems more important than mine, or yours, or any other of the 35,441 students currently enrolled in this university?”
Just a friendly reminder that while its shitty to be considered a bimbo (and a terrorist apparently, in my case), I’m not going to racially stereotyped, shot, and killed by the police and extremists in an overwhelming and systematic way like those who are speaking up in Mizzou might.
friendly reminder that though you have freedom of speech, you do not have the right to hateful speech and racist speech, and just because you’ve been called out on the fact that something you said was shitty does not mean your constitutional rights have been invalidated.
You are probably a great individual, but I do believe that your inability to see past your privilege has led you to write this completely tone-deaf article.
Butler is not in ANY way infringing on your constitutional right to freedom of speech because hate speech/racist speech/prejudiced speech are not protected by the constitution or the first amendment. The top comment here even says that “The Constitution defends a person’s right to free speech, but once your speech infringes on the constitutional rights of another person, your actions are wrong.” Isn’t it a constitutional right for all students to be treated equally and without persecution in their learning environment.
I agree your campus has gone through a lot, but there’s a simple way to end this problem. LISTEN to those who are trying so hard to be HEARD.
It’s hypocritical for you to say, “Let’s start by listening to each other. Let’s put aside our anger and come together to make a change we can be proud of. Let’s make respectable moves in the reshaping of our school. Let’s include students of all backgrounds when making decisions. Let’s ALL have a voice.” when
1) you know you already have a voice and have done nothing to use it in a positive way
2) you aren’t even listening to the very real persecution your fellow classmates (and other students of color across the nation) are feeling, and instead disregarding their struggle
and 3) you wrote this entire article because you’re lowkey butthurt because this movement does not cater to your needs as well.