Something interesting: this piece of art is an expression of someone’s opinion. It’s freedom of speech. And while I find it disturbing and offensive, I just find it curious that we are so horrified by this, yet we use the “freedom of speech” argument when it benefits us (i.e. the Phi Delta Theta article – this also reminds me of the confederate flag article).
Down vote me all you want. But I’m serious when I say that if we want this negativity to stop, we NEED to be genuine and consistent. Accept responsibility for our short comings and grow from difficult experiences. If I saw this painting on my campus I’m sure I would be brought to tears. But I do think it’s important that we do have flaws and understand why we tend to be viewed negatively.
This makes me sad. My chapter had a phenomenal relationship with our national office, girls come back from conventions in awe, they send our girls UIFI scholarships, are supportive, reward us for hard work… It just makes me sad that there are other organizations that don’t feel the same way or get the same opportunities.
I’m not sure why people always throw the “freedom of speech” thing around. Yes, you can say what you want, but not if you want to be in an elite organization like a sorority or a fraternity. They have values and national standards and are a privilege to be in. If you don’t meet those standards, you can get terminated or your chapter can be suspended or shut down. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
What was interesting to me, was the reaction. The original post really was just a girl putting out her two cents standing up for something. The reactions however horrified me. I couldn’t believe that Panhellenic women would treat each other like that. We can all express opinions without being nasty internet bullies. Last night I sent her a private message sending her support and apologizing for the despicable treatment she was receiving.
I think many women would like to be stay at home moms to raise their children. But I also think many women want to be able to support themselves and children if necessary. Being dependent on a man is the last thing I would want for myself. You can be a great mom and have a job at the same time.
Woah woah woah. Drinking is a normal, social, fun activity. It’s meant to be a good time. Many hilarious friendships are started over a few drinks or more. That’s part of being young! If you don’t want to drink, then hey you do you. I dd a lot for my sisters and can still have a kickass time without judging them for drinking. And btw, everyone tells a white lie when their doctor asks how much per week they drink. Honestly, it sounds like you could use a vodka soda right about now.
The police officers involved are currently on administrative leave no thanks those who recorded this act and posted it all over the Internet. Unfortunately no good deed goes unpunished.
I admire your confidence. It seems as though anything a woman does becomes sexualized and I find it very frustrating. I guess all we can do is own who we are and not let crap like that get under our skin. Great article and great message 🙂
This is the reason I hate fraternity formals. Honestly I would probably just ask around a few of his trustworthy friends… If they seem like he’s expecting sex, you can always just choose not to go and avoid the situation all together. Formals aren’t always all they’re cracked up to be and I promise there will be another opportunity. You don’t have to put yourself in an uncomfortable situation just because you don’t want to miss out.
To be frank, I think it’s about time that we, as Greek men and women, stop playing the victim. I see my own chapter sisters always getting upset about how the media portrays us and it drives me crazy. Yes, we are in the spotlight. Yes, we are held to a higher standard. But honestly, I think it’s because of ignorance and probably some jealousy.
We say it all the time “from the outside you can’t understand it, from the inside you can’t explain it.” We have something special, that those who are unaffiliated won’t ever understand. So all we can do is take pride in how much we have to offer, and work on our flaws. It’s not a battle of who is worse than who, or stop picking on Greeks. We are picked on because we have amazing members who do amazing things, and we work hard to recruit talented, hard working, impressive individuals. We have some skeletons in our closets, but we can’t let the media or our insecurities define us.
Some of these ideas have been implemented at my university’s Greek system and have bee successful. For example, risk management for formals and socials are the same. We have a risk management team and we provide alcohol to those above age. We also bus. However, our letters are never associated with alcohol. We ask our members not to drink in letters and for underage members not to post or or flaunt underage drinking. Because we are a business and that’s how it works.
My issue with this is that you don’t think we should be held to different standards. Of course we should. Women’s fraternities were created to build strong womanly character and to help us become the best versions of ourselves. We want the highest academics, and to raise the most money etc. we ARE the best and we need to act accordingly and be held to the high standards. I know many people on this site won’t agree with me, but I’ve seen my chapter and my university’s Greek system grow and flourish in my college years because of these things. I’m speaking from experience and I want my chapter and my organization to be around for hundreds years more.
Purplesails, I’m not sure why you’re getting the negative reaction that you are. You’re completely right to be hurt because the article was hurtful. Keep your head up!
Is this a joke? I’m absolutely a feminist through and through. But this article is ridiculous. You can’t get your political facts from an actress and you can’t complain about things without doing some research and looking up possible solutions (and please don’t tell me this article was satire. It’s not).
If you watched the video, it doesn’t really talk much about slut shaming or saying what she did was okay. She takes full responsibility for her actions. The focus is more about cyber bullying and humiliation. Just because she made a mistake at 22 doesn’t mean she deserved to have her entire life ruined.
I think you missed my point 🙂
Something interesting: this piece of art is an expression of someone’s opinion. It’s freedom of speech. And while I find it disturbing and offensive, I just find it curious that we are so horrified by this, yet we use the “freedom of speech” argument when it benefits us (i.e. the Phi Delta Theta article – this also reminds me of the confederate flag article).
Down vote me all you want. But I’m serious when I say that if we want this negativity to stop, we NEED to be genuine and consistent. Accept responsibility for our short comings and grow from difficult experiences. If I saw this painting on my campus I’m sure I would be brought to tears. But I do think it’s important that we do have flaws and understand why we tend to be viewed negatively.
This makes me sad. My chapter had a phenomenal relationship with our national office, girls come back from conventions in awe, they send our girls UIFI scholarships, are supportive, reward us for hard work… It just makes me sad that there are other organizations that don’t feel the same way or get the same opportunities.
I’m not sure why people always throw the “freedom of speech” thing around. Yes, you can say what you want, but not if you want to be in an elite organization like a sorority or a fraternity. They have values and national standards and are a privilege to be in. If you don’t meet those standards, you can get terminated or your chapter can be suspended or shut down. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
What was interesting to me, was the reaction. The original post really was just a girl putting out her two cents standing up for something. The reactions however horrified me. I couldn’t believe that Panhellenic women would treat each other like that. We can all express opinions without being nasty internet bullies. Last night I sent her a private message sending her support and apologizing for the despicable treatment she was receiving.
I think many women would like to be stay at home moms to raise their children. But I also think many women want to be able to support themselves and children if necessary. Being dependent on a man is the last thing I would want for myself. You can be a great mom and have a job at the same time.
This site is entertaining, but it’s the opposite of women’s empowerment. For sure.
Woah woah woah. Drinking is a normal, social, fun activity. It’s meant to be a good time. Many hilarious friendships are started over a few drinks or more. That’s part of being young! If you don’t want to drink, then hey you do you. I dd a lot for my sisters and can still have a kickass time without judging them for drinking. And btw, everyone tells a white lie when their doctor asks how much per week they drink. Honestly, it sounds like you could use a vodka soda right about now.
Just switch to a salon that has stand-ups! Problem solved 🙂
The police officers involved are currently on administrative leave no thanks those who recorded this act and posted it all over the Internet. Unfortunately no good deed goes unpunished.
Wow cousins that look alike AND take part in family traditions? What a strange concept!
Loved it!
I admire your confidence. It seems as though anything a woman does becomes sexualized and I find it very frustrating. I guess all we can do is own who we are and not let crap like that get under our skin. Great article and great message 🙂
This is the reason I hate fraternity formals. Honestly I would probably just ask around a few of his trustworthy friends… If they seem like he’s expecting sex, you can always just choose not to go and avoid the situation all together. Formals aren’t always all they’re cracked up to be and I promise there will be another opportunity. You don’t have to put yourself in an uncomfortable situation just because you don’t want to miss out.
To be frank, I think it’s about time that we, as Greek men and women, stop playing the victim. I see my own chapter sisters always getting upset about how the media portrays us and it drives me crazy. Yes, we are in the spotlight. Yes, we are held to a higher standard. But honestly, I think it’s because of ignorance and probably some jealousy.
We say it all the time “from the outside you can’t understand it, from the inside you can’t explain it.” We have something special, that those who are unaffiliated won’t ever understand. So all we can do is take pride in how much we have to offer, and work on our flaws. It’s not a battle of who is worse than who, or stop picking on Greeks. We are picked on because we have amazing members who do amazing things, and we work hard to recruit talented, hard working, impressive individuals. We have some skeletons in our closets, but we can’t let the media or our insecurities define us.
Thank you, you worded that better than I could have!
Some of these ideas have been implemented at my university’s Greek system and have bee successful. For example, risk management for formals and socials are the same. We have a risk management team and we provide alcohol to those above age. We also bus. However, our letters are never associated with alcohol. We ask our members not to drink in letters and for underage members not to post or or flaunt underage drinking. Because we are a business and that’s how it works.
My issue with this is that you don’t think we should be held to different standards. Of course we should. Women’s fraternities were created to build strong womanly character and to help us become the best versions of ourselves. We want the highest academics, and to raise the most money etc. we ARE the best and we need to act accordingly and be held to the high standards. I know many people on this site won’t agree with me, but I’ve seen my chapter and my university’s Greek system grow and flourish in my college years because of these things. I’m speaking from experience and I want my chapter and my organization to be around for hundreds years more.
Purplesails, I’m not sure why you’re getting the negative reaction that you are. You’re completely right to be hurt because the article was hurtful. Keep your head up!
Is this a joke? I’m absolutely a feminist through and through. But this article is ridiculous. You can’t get your political facts from an actress and you can’t complain about things without doing some research and looking up possible solutions (and please don’t tell me this article was satire. It’s not).
If you watched the video, it doesn’t really talk much about slut shaming or saying what she did was okay. She takes full responsibility for her actions. The focus is more about cyber bullying and humiliation. Just because she made a mistake at 22 doesn’t mean she deserved to have her entire life ruined.